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Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:59:42
gamingeek said:

From what I saw at E3, I was quite disappointed with the sort of shooter based averageness I saw. I was expecting something different like Shattered Memories.

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Right, watched it. I'm torn, I love the story aspect and atmosphere and visuals, but then the action focus really turns me off.

I want horror games to be less about shooting things. More about tension, exploration and thinking. The epic fights with slow mo and rotating cameras is too far, in the aspect that it feels like a populist concession.

There are so many action games, I'd like to see a thinking mans game.

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I mean like horror/adventure/detective games. Or making a graphic adventure style game, only in 3D and with proper production values. But one in which you don't bust out a machine gun to pummel enemies.

  

Yes. YES. Can't agree more.

From the bits I saw it seems hugely atmospheric visually but no deep story focus( I could be totally off on this) and then bits of  action. (Where you're shooting bolts of something???)

Makes me think of why I started to gravitate to Asian horror movies. In many of them the people are totally helpless and if there is to be any hope for them they have to solve a puzzle basically. Action violence won't do a damn thing. In horror I don't like half as much, the solution is like to brain your enemy with a pipe. Although, for more action horror I enjoy zombies and stuff like evil dead but those still have a lot of helplessness and running from danger.


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. My dream game would be like a modern Tex Murphy game played in the first person with Arc or the Wii remote. Only with all the modern trappings like Call of Duty camera angles and mo-cap and object manipulation like Elebits only much more refined.

Mine might be a gabriel knight game just to get a bit of a supernatural angle in. dammit, I want exploration detective type adventure games again.


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Agnates said:
Anno on Wii is pretty awesome, probably Ubi's only truly great Wii game, so, try that. It's not as serious and complicated as the PC games, but it's not kiddy either. Other than that, for Adventures, um, Another Code R is good. There are tons of adventure games on PC of course, but the best are older, with few exceptions.

I've been wanting to try Anno for ages but its price kept fluctuating so eventually I just decided to wait until it was hobo price. Angry Monkey here played it.

Another game I should get back to. Really good game - not enough of an amazing game I guess to get me to keep playing.  My girlfriend played it a lot more.



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Fri, 19 Feb 2010 20:15:16
I'm repeating this because I think it was missed as I edited it in after I posted. Penumbra is almost exactly what gg wanted. A horror adventure type game, except with FPS-like real time 3D movement, and heavy physics based puzzling, in a realistic manner. Kind of like a much scarrier and tougher Silent Hill: Shattered Memories.

You solve puzzles similarly to that game, using your mouse cursor to move and operate devices and objects, only in a more complex manner. I would be surprised if Shattered Memories' developers hadn't seen that game and decided to incorporate the interactivity for the doors, cupboards, etc, and object manipulation from that.

In the media section of the Penumbra site check the Black Plague trailer, it shows the gameplay better than the others. All three games have similar focus and atmosphere obviously, they just don't have very good trailers. The developers are making a new game you may have seen talked about recently, called Amnesia: The Dark Descent.

There's also a demo available, though I'm not sure of what it includes and if it's a good sample of the games.
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Fri, 19 Feb 2010 20:32:39
I gave the second one a brief try once, the controls bothered me but I'll try it again.
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Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:09:52

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I'm repeating this because I think it was missed as I edited it in after I posted. Penumbra is almost exactly what gg wanted. A horror adventure type game, except with FPS-like real time 3D movement, and heavy physics based puzzling, in a realistic manner. Kind of like a much scarrier and tougher Silent Hill: Shattered Memories.

You solve puzzles similarly to that game, using your mouse cursor to move and operate devices and objects, only in a more complex manner. I would be surprised if Shattered Memories' developers hadn't seen that game and decided to incorporate the interactivity for the doors, cupboards, etc, and object manipulation from that.

In the media section of the Penumbra site check the Black Plague trailer, it shows the gameplay better than the others. All three games have similar focus and atmosphere obviously, they just don't have very good trailers. The developers are making a new game you may have seen talked about recently, called Amnesia: The Dark Descent.

There's also a demo available, though I'm not sure of what it includes and if it's a good sample of the games.

Yeah, the Penumbra series is a rather good suggestion for GG. I tried the demo, but it ran like shit on my old-ass PC.

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Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:21:58

Agnates said:
I'm repeating this because I think it was missed as I edited it in after I posted. Penumbra is almost exactly what gg wanted. A horror adventure type game, except with FPS-like real time 3D movement, and heavy physics based puzzling, in a realistic manner. Kind of like a much scarrier and tougher Silent Hill: Shattered Memories.

You solve puzzles similarly to that game, using your mouse cursor to move and operate devices and objects, only in a more complex manner. I would be surprised if Shattered Memories' developers hadn't seen that game and decided to incorporate the interactivity for the doors, cupboards, etc, and object manipulation from that.

In the media section of the Penumbra site check the Black Plague trailer, it shows the gameplay better than the others. All three games have similar focus and atmosphere obviously, they just don't have very good trailers. The developers are making a new game you may have seen talked about recently, called Amnesia: The Dark Descent.

There's also a demo available, though I'm not sure of what it includes and if it's a good sample of the games.

Sounds awesome. I'm not a PC Gamer anymore though which is my problem, I gave it up in the 90s after I got tired up upgrading to play the latest games.

I would love to watch the trailer now but some fool has the TV on so I cant hear anything. Will definetly watch tommorrow and maybe download the demo next week if my craptop can handle it.

Which game is the best and do you need story knowledge of one to play the sequels?

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Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:33:19
You can buy all three games for 20 euros on Steam. If you just want to sample the experience beyond the demo before commiting, just buy the cheapest wherever found, they're more or less equal. One game in three parts.
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Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:48:19
Holy crap, it's available on Linux!

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Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:57:39

Agnates said:
You can buy all three games for 20 euros on Steam. If you just want to sample the experience beyond the demo before commiting, just buy the cheapest wherever found, they're more or less equal. One game in three parts.

Huh? So its not three games its one game split into 3?

I've got objections to Steam and dowloading games and playing on PC and stuff.

Demos are different. I have old graphic adventures I can't play because windows keep updating their OS's.

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Fri, 19 Feb 2010 22:06:28
It's your standard adventure game trilogy (though, more gameplay, less intricate story), made by like 10 people, so they didn't have resources to overhaul everything for every iteration, so every sequel is basically just as good as the previous, like an expansion pack, but stand alone. They were budget priced from the start.

Look on Amazon, I don't know where you shop that might have copies, indie games disappear from shelves fast.

Upgrading is no different to buying a new console. Keep your old PC if you don't trust compatibility of newer hard or soft ware (though almost everything should be playable anywhere with the likes of Dosbox and whatever else fans have cooked up). I doubt most people run Windows 7 on the same PC they run Win 98 SE or earlier.

Unless you mean it was a mere patch, not a full new version, that broke compatibility. Give a shot to google, I'm sure someone must have found a solution for it, depending on the game's popularity.

Anyway, I hijacked the thread too much, see if the demo runs acceptably for you, and maybe you'll make a thread about the games or the company's new games if you grow to really like them :-P
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Sat, 20 Feb 2010 02:14:31

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Anyway, I hijacked the thread too much, see if the demo runs acceptably for you, and maybe you'll make a thread about the games or the company's new games if you grow to really like them :-P

Don't worry about it, man. We thrive on thread derailings. Nyaa

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Sat, 20 Feb 2010 02:17:36


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Sat, 20 Feb 2010 02:27:00
LOL
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Sat, 20 Feb 2010 02:34:19

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LOL WTF-MAN ASS.

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Sat, 20 Feb 2010 02:35:26

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Yodariquo said:

LOL WTF-MAN ASS.

Still the best moment ever.

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Sat, 20 Feb 2010 05:03:29

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SteelAttack said:

Yodariquo said:

LOL WTF-MAN ASS.

Still the best moment ever.

That's where our stillborn credibility went down the toilet. LOL

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Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:24:26

Agnates said:
It's your standard adventure game trilogy (though, more gameplay, less intricate story), made by like 10 people, so they didn't have resources to overhaul everything for every iteration, so every sequel is basically just as good as the previous, like an expansion pack, but stand alone. They were budget priced from the start.

 How long is each game roughly? I gave up PC gaming long ago, I got fed up installing games and upgrading and such. I think the final nail in the coffin is when I bought this game brand new and it wouldn't run and the shop wouldn't let me take it back. It was this submarine game. 

Also, remember there was a burglary a few weeks ago and a laptop was stolen, so I don't like the idea of having digitally stored games. I only recentely started downloading paid-for music on amazon, then burning them to CD and I have the problem of no cases or boxart. I tried to make my own but it wasn't the same. 

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Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:22:55

Finally, time and space to check out these Penumbra videos. 

Ugh, maybe loading all 3 videos at once wasn't a good idea. Sad

*taps fingers*

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Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:26:27
6-8 hours each. Just watch the second  and/or third video, the first doesn't do a good job at showing the gameplay. Again, it may remind a lot of Shattered Memories' interaction with objects and "puzzles" but it's more complicated and used more often here.
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Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:33:53

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6-8 hours each. Just watch the second  and/or third video, the first doesn't do a good job at showing the gameplay. Again, it may remind a lot of Shattered Memories' interaction with objects and "puzzles" but it's more complicated and used more often here.

 I watched all three videos, definitely looks like the sort of thing that would interest me. I don't think I can play it with a laptop touchpad though. I want to download the demo, but I don't think the graphics card is supported. 

I haven't gamed on PC for ageeeeeeeeeeeeeeees. How do I check what card I have? I know its a 256mb ATI card. 

Well..... I think. 

Oh and it asks you to update drivers too. Gah. 

This is why I play DS. 


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