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I got this for around $12, it's the first half of the complete series. It comes on 5 discs, double sided with 33 episodes. Firstly, the picture quality isn't great, this cartoon was made in 1985 so you can't expect a crystal clear picture. The story begins on Mongol where Flash Gordon's wife and son Rick are held prisoner by Ming the Merciless. Mongols resources are running out so he wants to invade the earth. Flash, chased by Ming's ice robots, crashes on earth outside Mandrake's mansion. Mandrake is like a middle aged English magician with an African man servant -Lothar- and a young adopted asian boy.

They both join up with Flash and later recruit the Ghost who Walks: The Phantom, to the team of....... THE DEFENDERS OF THE EARTH!

This is one of those toons so bad it's good and totally 80s kick ass experiences. I have laughed so hard. For a start they are all single dads, the Defenders that is and bring along three sons and one daughter who all live with them and are like junior defenders. The junior defenders are all like in their late teens and wear 80s style tight jeans and bomber jackets.

This is some classic shit. C-L-A-S-S-I-C. It's like the 80s has been distilled into an injection and shot into your arm. It's totally brilliant, totally crap and totally the greatest and worse thing you have ever seen in your life. And that makes it the greatest. There are so many WTF moments that you will be belly laughing half the time and the other half with eyes wide open at the sheer 80s superhero audacity on display.

Let's list some WTF moments. Firstly there is part of one episode where the magician mandrake starts wearing blue goggles for absolutely no reason whatsoevever and in the next scene they magically disappear.

Then there is a scene where huge troll like hands up-end Rick Gordon (Flash's son) and drags him into a tunnel. Inside the tunnel we see that the huge troll hands actually belong to a 30 cm purple fluff toy.

There is the scene where the Phantom's daughter psychically tells her black panther to follow a truck, at which point, said panther jumps off a bridge 80s style and lands on top of the truck. Then in an episode, Mandrake's adopted son throws a rock off a mountain top and somehow manages to crack open the cockpit of a supersonic jet belonging to Ming the Merciless' Ice Robots (yes you read that right). And not only is the jet destroyed, Flash Gordon then flys by and gives the kid the thumbs up. ROFL!

Then the show has awesome moments. For instance the intro for one episode has Flash and the Phantom in space, they engage this bubble shield astronaut suit on themselves, get into a firefight with Mings Ice Robots. So Flash wants to shoot them down but the guns are jammed, the ice robots shoot out their cockpit glass. Phantom suddenly stands up and crouches. Flash says "Phantom, what are you doing?", the Phantom says "Engaging the manual guns." So he jumps out of the jet, onto the wing, breaks a cannon off the wing and shoots down the enemy planes himself. Absolutely AWESOME.

Then later in the same episode Flash engages the Laser Sword. Picture a giant lightsaber coming out of the end of a jet and they use it to ram other jets and then break through Ming's evil dome building, crashing the ceiling down on top of him.

Then there is the episode where the DOE (Defenders of the Earth) computer is infected when they take it to play in a chess tournament LOL! It gets infected by a giant worm and they shrink down Fantastic Voyage style and attack it with little metal rods! BTW did I mention that the DOE computer houses the consciousness of Rick Gordons' dead mother?

Then you find out that the Phantom has a helicopter shaped like a skull! LIKE A SKULL. It's classic! In one scene Flash and Phantom are on foot and suddenly the ice robot jets attack. Flash runs to the copter for weapons. He does a forward somersault into the helicopter and comes out the other side of the copter with a gun and shoots down two planes - in one single movement. Total awesomeness.

Then Phantom can call upon the power of 10 tigers (it's part of jungle law) and he picks up a massive totem and throws it into the sky to trash more jets.

Then there are these inexplicable 80s moments, for instance instead of a dissolve or fade out they have the Phantom's black panther leap towards the screen, the camera entering it's mouth. Or Ming's snake pet looking at the camera and its eye twinkling for NO reason whatsoever.

It throws logic to the wind, they show you these WTF moments at every turn and you can only say "Okay LOL" and go along for the ride. It's hilarious and awesome and brilliant fun at every turn. It makes you feel like a kid again. I'm ordering the rest of the series on dvd now.

This boxset cost me $12 including shipping cost from amazon. If you are a child of the 80s and used to watch this show, just buy it.

The intro from the series can be found at the video intro link.

King Arthur and the Knights of Justice

I got this one disc set for $6 which is less than the price of a sandwich over here. It has the entire first series which is 5 episodes long. Unlike Batman the Animated series, this is no classic. It's definetely not something that holds up today and to be honest it's pretty crap in places. You would buy this for the memories and because you can get it for less than the price of a sandwich. It is though, hugely enjoyable. The story goes that the real knights of camelot are frozen in a cave so merlin goes into the future and abducts an american football team and takes them back in time to replace them. It's one of those shows that is so obviously geared towards young sword wielding wanabes that it's just hilarious in places. So bad it's good. For instance, I just watched this episode where they go to the top of this tower to fight a dragon, the dragon turns out to be an illusion and it was a trap and soldiers are making their way to the top of the tower to kill them.

So, basically the knights have magic armour that has emblems for instance arthur touches the sword on his chest and a sword appears. So they are stuck at the top of this tower and about to be killed so arthur shouts to his buddy "build me a glider!" and so his buddy knight for some reason, instead of having a weapon crest, has a hammer and chisel on his chest and touches it and the tools appear. Arthur then shouts "You have about 30 seconds before we're dead!" so this buddy builds a ramshackle glider out of some rotting wood. Arthur then whips off his cape, attaches it to the frame and 5 heavily armoured knights, with weapons, somehow manage to all fly off the tower on their glider. As they sail away the bad guys now on top of the tower shout "What manner of magic is this?!"

Then to top that off, their horses run beneath them and line up perfectly at the same speed and each knight then drops from about 50 feet in the air onto the horses back and they ride off. But what makes it worse is that later on they are attacked. Now like the weapon crests they have animal crests on their shields. So this one knight brings out his eagle crest and they fly off and escape the attackers. So... this is the same episode and they could have just used the eagle, but instead build a 30 glider. This show is awesome. I just watched an episode where 6 year old kids wearing saucepans for helmets wreck the warlords with sticks and catapults. This show is double awesome.

This is one show that has held up extremely well. The dvd comes in a glossy, lavish packing with a great documentary on the making of this emmy award winning series. 28 episodes over 4 discs for a bargain price. The art is amazing in todays context. It almost seems like TV animation has degraded from this high point. The city itself becomes a character, everything is drawn in an art deco style. The characters taking inspiration from old superman comics. This is almost like the foreshadow for the new Batman films. It has thrilling chases, adult humour, dark moments and that essential batman feel. This comes highly reccomended.

The Adventures of Tintin

Is a 10 disc boxset, celebrating 75 years of Herge. So far I have watched Tintin in America which was pretty lame to be honest. But Tintin and the Cigars of the Pharoahs reminds me of why I used to love this series. An suspenseful feeling, almost like hitchcock at times, with comic flourishes, the stories still hold up well. These cartoons are quite old so the transfer quality isn't amazing but it still looks good if you can overcome that.

Posted by gamingeek Sun, 04 Jan 2009 13:32:53 (comments: 297)
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Mon, 07 May 2012 23:19:41
gamingeek said:

Agreed. Although Clone Wars is pretty good in terms of art style. The animation isn't the most fluid but the art and production values are really high in general so you get used to it. I've wanted a Green Lantern series for ages, then they announce it as CGI indecision

Not a fan of The Clone Wars (actually, not a fan of the recent Star Wars stuff in general,) but the show from a visual standpoint does look amazing, there's no denying that.  For me, the CGI animated series that I'm enjoying right now is Transformers Prime.  Obviously it's not on par technically with Clone Wars, but what is there is a very well done series both in style and storytelling.    

 
Tue, 08 May 2012 11:10:14

I can't take Transformers Prime, it's so off from the Transformers of the 80s I grew up with it makes me throw up a little.

Generator Rex is pretty good. I made the mistake of catching probably the worst episode as my first and thanks to CN you don't know what season or often what episode you are watching. When I started watching them in order they're pretty fun. Man of Action are making the new Ultimate Spiderman series too, the clips I've seen are decent.

 
Wed, 09 May 2012 02:38:47

Clone Wars is hideously ugly. Nyaa

 
Wed, 09 May 2012 14:28:58

Beast Wars forever! That was crazy for its day.

 
Wed, 09 May 2012 15:03:42
Foolz said:

Clone Wars is hideously ugly. Nyaa

It can look pretty good.

It took them a while but the lightsaber battles near the end of season 3 are pretty epic.

Also because they have so much breathing room in terms of time, they really flesh out the Clone Wars Universe a lot better than the movies did. In season 3 they start doing 3 and 4 parters too, so total running time for each block is like an hour - sort of like another mini-star wars movie. There is some good stuff about Anakin and how he was supposed to bring balance to the force, even some Qui Gon flashbacks and more about the origins of the Force.

Oh and a couple of kickass Sith characters and more about the Sith and how apprentices were chosen etc, you even find out where Darth Maul was found.

If anyone wants to watch the Clone Wars I have found a few links which will help you work out what season and episode is being shown.

This is a complete episode list, but it's not wholly useful as you need to match up the blue jedi wisdom from the beginning of each episode to the actual episode title (which is never actually shown on screen)

For that you need this site

Scroll down halfway and click on the season you want to check. Or, I can provide a word document which is easier but only for seasons 1-3.

 
Thu, 10 May 2012 02:35:13

Nope, horrible character design.

The battles can look cool, though, I'll give you that.

That episode list shit again. LOL Ridiculous.

 
Fri, 11 May 2012 16:04:33

Wow, so you remember a few weeks ago I was bitching about Cartoon Network and how their listings suck monkey ass?

Well I actually wrote them a lengthy email to Cartoon Network UK, which was actually the second time I had bugged them about it. Anyway I was checking the listings today and it looks like they have actually acted on it!

Like I said in my email, the listing should say the episode number and series number in the listings to work out what episode you are on - because the episode title is never shown on the actual episode. And on the listings today, season 4 which they had been showing with the generic:

Star Wars Clone Wars: Watch Anakin and Asoka yada yada save the galaxy

Had been changed, the listing begins with the Ep Num and Season number then has a freaking actual description of the episode. lol

They appear to have been ever so slowly updating the listings for Generator Rex and Thundercats too which I complained about,  but it's only on Clone wars where they have started telling us the ep num and season num, which is what leads me to believe that they actually acted on my advice.

They never replied to my email though.

Disney UK however did and passed my comments on to the relavent departments. I've been trying to get Gargoyles on Disney XD because only half the series is on DVD and I've been trying to get Gummi Bears back on Disney for the same reason. The UK channel showed it in 2005  or something but I'm trying to get a rerun so I can show my nephews.

 
Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:54:46

Motherfuck. Josh Whee-pants just got Avengers Earths Mightiest Heroes cancelled. angry

AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!! FULL INTERVIEW HERE

Rich Sands of TV Guide spoke with Jeph Loeb and Joe Quesada about a new show featuring 5 Hulks and a new program that more closely resembles their latest blockbuster called Marvel's Avengers Assemble. Loeb confirmed that there will be a Hulk-centric cartoon:


"We're taking characters that already exist in the Marvel Universe — because it's very important to us that it all begins with [the comic-book] publishing. That cast is Hulk; the Red Hulk; Skaar, who's the teenage barbarian Hulk, She-Hulk — who's actually been a character in the Marvel Universe for 30 years; and a relatively new character, A-Bomb. He's more of a Blue Hulk. And together they are Hulk and the Agents of S.M.A.S.H."




It's an interesting idea, but outside of Galactus or Thanos armed with the Infinity Gauntlet who could defeat a team of Hulks?


As for a replacement to the awesomely amazing Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes (a small tear rolls down my cheek as I think about the show's cancellation), it sounds like it will be based heavily on The Avengers with one noticeable exception. Quesada says that Falcon will now be part of the team:


"Falcon is going to be the eyes of the viewer. He's a new member of the Avengers so he's walking through our stories wide-eyed and with wonder and amazed to be a part of it. He's a little younger than the rest of the cast and a little greener, so he adds an interesting dimension to the team that we think will play really well with the audience."


It almost sounds like he's a psuedo-replacement for Coulson, which is a shame. I would have liked to have seen a zombie Clark Gregg in a tattered black suit join the Avengers.

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2012/06/12/is-avengers-movie-success-worth-killing-earths-mightiest-heroes/

Is Avengers’ Movie Success Worth Killing Earth’s Mightiest Heroes?

I question upon the announcement of Marvel’s Avengers Assemble, the new animated series that will replace the current Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes series because… it’s closer to the movie, apparently? Maybe? But is that enough reason to kill a successful show?


That latter question may be something that only has an entirely subjective answer, of course, depending on just how much you loved either the Avengers movie or the Earth’s Mightiest Heroes cartoon. This isn’t the first time that a popular Marvel cartoon has met an untimely death after a couple of seasons – Greg Weisman’s Spectacular Spider-Man also disappeared after two years in order to make way for Marvel’s new Ultimate Spider-Man, but at least in that case there were operational considerations that made the switch slightly more understandable (For those with memories as short as mine, those were: Disney bought Marvel, the Spider-Man TV rights were reclaimed by Marvel from Sony, and Marvel TV was created as a division for the purpose of creating its own television programming as opposed to continuing to license its characters). Earth’s Mightiest Heroes, on the other hand, was already a fully-owned Marvel property, one of Marvel’s first such projects, and one that was already airing on Disney XD a la Ultimate Spider-Man (The two air in the same “Marvel Universe” Sunday morning block). So… what was wrong with it, exactly…?


The stated reason for the cancellation/new series move seems to be that Avengers Assemble will be closer to the amazingly successful movie in terms of tone and atmosphere. Marvel TV boss Jeph Loeb described the new show as being “a brand new and really extraordinary looking animated series dealing with the Avengers in that same world [as the movie],” suggesting that Earth’s Mightiest Heroes just wasn’t the kind of thing that would hook in people who loved the movie… but, in the same interview, Loeb also teases Hulk and The Agents of SMASH, a Hulk team project that’s roughly a million miles from Mark Ruffalo’s angry alter ego, and Ultimate Spider-Man isn’t exactly step-by-step with next month’s Amazing Spider-Man. So, apparently, the need for cross-media synergy isn’t there for every project.


It might be easy to plump for the much-shared “Jeph Loeb didn’t like EMH because it was created before he got to the company” theory, but let’s be honest, that’s more than a little simplistic; shows are rarely cancelled on such personal whims, especially not when they’re doing well. Losing EMH is certainly a calculated risk on Marvel’s part, don’t get me wrong. After all, it’s not as if it was a failure as a series, either in terms of ratings or fan response, so killing the series only two years in with the hope that the next attempt will be even better feels either confident, optimistic or a quick way to piss off a number of fans (Already, the internet is filled with those declaring themselves “done” with Marvel as a result of the decision, with Marvel’s CCO Joe Quesada re-tweeting a former fan declaring that he hoped Quesada would die of AIDS as a result of the decision).


The bet, I’d guess, is that the Avengers movie has (out-)performed to such an extent that it’s coloring the way that Marvel considers the brand outside of the core comics audience (and even there, Avengers Assemble – there’s that title again – was created as a monthly title to focus on the team from the movie), creating a nervousness about how far other versions can stray from the movie without losing the intangible but clear appeal of the movie that will, at least temporarily, restrict anything that doesn’t have a core of Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Hulk, Hawkeye and Black Widow for the foreseeable future. We know – and, more importantly, so do Marvel – that Spider-Man is a malleable character, who can appeal as long as the core characteristics are present; the same is true of the Hulk, to a lesser extent. But the Avengers…? No-one really has a grasp on why they work for mass audiences yet, and until they do, I think we’re going to see much less variation in their depiction.


Was it cowardice, then, that killed Earth’s Mightiest Heroes? Not really; nervousness and a (perhaps well-placed) belief that, as successful as the show was, a different take on the same idea that follows the lead of the movie may be more of a success, perhaps, but making the decision to pull EMH, knowing the backlash such a decision would bring is anything but cowardly. Like I said, it’s a calculated risk. If only to reward them for not taking the easy route – Assemble will have to go far to win over those upset by the end of EMH, after all – I really hope it’s one that pays off.

Agreed^

Marvel are fuckheads, Joss Crapdon can kiss my ass too. Buffy season 6?! Argh!

 
Sun, 24 Jun 2012 15:19:42

Still talkin' to myself.

Clone wars season 4 is off with a whimper. The first 7 episodes or so seem to be tailored towards kids. Lots of Chibi looking characters and ewoks like characters, which is a shame. Especially since season 3 had darker and better stories like Ventress' betrayal, or the whole Anakin facing his dark side story.

The series has introduced Admiral Ackbar and Chewbacca though, that's cool.

Ben 10 Ultimate Alien seems to be a good series. For those unfamiliar with Ben 10, it's hard to know where to begin. There are 3 series.

1. Ben 10

2. Ben 10: Alien Force

3. Ben 10: Ultimate Alien

And they are going to do a 4th series called Omniverse I hear. Basically you want to avoid Ben 10 like the plague. It's the characters when they were 10 years old. There are like 40 episodes and only 4 maybe 5 episodes are worth watching.

Alien Force catches up with the characters when they are older, 16, 17-ish and is more watchable. It seems a lot of talent from Justice League was involved in doing the series. It's always decent, infrequently engaging and enjoyable. It has a big send off and then moves the series onto Ultimate Alien.

Suprisingly, as this is a direct continuation -no timeline skipping or aging of the characters- there seems to be much better planning and structure to the story arcs and it's consistently good. I'm really enjoying the 20 or so episodes I have seen so far.

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