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Thu, 18 Oct 2018 07:44:26
Ravenprose said:

Congrats to Canada! yes Hopefully the US government will do the same soon. Arresting people for weed is insane.

Yeah, gotta agree.  It just feels we should be focused on other, more important things right now.

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Thu, 18 Oct 2018 08:00:32
travo said:
Ravenprose said:

Congrats to Canada! yes Hopefully the US government will do the same soon. Arresting people for weed is insane.

Yeah, gotta agree.  It just feels we should be focused on other, more important things right now.

Like what?

The legalisation made the news here in Belgium.  Seems there are a lot of specific rules in place and they are not the same for the whole of Canada.

This explains why my sister and her partner wanted to go travel through Canada for a year though.  They were in the loop.

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Thu, 18 Oct 2018 10:53:13
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Like what?

The legalisation made the news here in Belgium.  Seems there are a lot of specific rules in place and they are not the same for the whole of Canada.

This explains why my sister and her partner wanted to go travel through Canada for a year though.  They were in the loop.

The incarceration rates for the low level offense here in the states is extremely high and devastating to young people who are arrested.  It may be time to view marijuana similar to alcohol.  Focus resources and money on higher offenses and, hopefully, prevent the overcrowding in prisons.

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Thu, 18 Oct 2018 11:46:04
I don't think that 'everyone' s doing it so better not penalise it because it's too much work' is a good motivation to change legislation. Perhaps it'd be better to shift more towards fines? I think that the very strict rules imposed on the use of weed which apply to firefighters, police, soldiers,... kind of prove that drugs are not equel in their effects to alcohol though.

Apologies for the wording, I'm on my phone with very little time
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Thu, 18 Oct 2018 12:20:17

I would be happier with fines rather than incarcerating someone for years, which happens in some cases.

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Thu, 18 Oct 2018 14:54:52
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The incarceration rates for the low level offense here in the states is extremely high and devastating to young people who are arrested.  It may be time to view marijuana similar to alcohol.  Focus resources and money on higher offenses and, hopefully, prevent the overcrowding in prisons.

I grew up in a nice suburb back in the 90's. All the cops were interested in was finding a dimebag of weed on the teens at the time. I swear I was frisked probably hundreds of times and never once did they find a thing on me, which I think started to piss them off. They seemed to really enjoy being able to bust someone. Especially a young kid whom they deemed to be a punk....like they were dying to make an example of you. I wonder what it's like now as a teen in the suburbs.

Things have changed quite a bit since then.

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Thu, 18 Oct 2018 16:38:55
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I grew up in a nice suburb back in the 90's. All the cops were interested in was finding a dimebag of weed on the teens at the time. I swear I was frisked probably hundreds of times and never once did they find a thing on me, which I think started to piss them off. They seemed to really enjoy being able to bust someone. Especially a young kid whom they deemed to be a punk....like they were dying to make an example of you. I wonder what it's like now as a teen in the suburbs.

Things have changed quite a bit since then.

They just liked touching you.

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Thu, 18 Oct 2018 16:42:23
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They just liked touching you.

Of course they did. I think they wanted to feel what their daughters felt when I made them feel emotions they never felt before.

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Thu, 18 Oct 2018 22:49:44
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I don't think that 'everyone' s doing it so better not penalise it because it's too much work' is a good motivation to change legislation. Perhaps it'd be better to shift more towards fines? I think that the very strict rules imposed on the use of weed which apply to firefighters, police, soldiers,... kind of prove that drugs are not equel in their effects to alcohol though.






Apologies for the wording, I'm on my phone with very little time

I don't think strict rules prove anything except that decades of propaganda is more effective than science, cost to society, and even the average Joe's observations. It took a long time to accept tobacco was shithouse, and the solution to that problem was neither prohibition nor punitive law aimed at the addict. Simply put, alcohol costs the long-suffering tax payer more than marijuana. And as far as its cognitive effects are concerned, the science is inconclusive, but in general leans towards it being less addictive and causing less impairment and long term damage than alcohol, which is actually tremendously dangerous. Not to mention how difficult it is to get anywhere with legalising medical marijuana in a manner that makes it easy to access when fighting against such idiotic prejudice. In Australia, anyway. And what other option is there for people who have genuine pain and need relief? Morphine. Well, there's no competition as to which is the safer drug lol.

Oh, and America has the highest prison population and incarceration rate in the world. Their justice system is one of the most horrific institutions presently in existence which, without even considering the punitive demagoguery and greed that underpins it, features widespread use of 18 century torture techniques such as solitary confinement on a large scale. It's also an effective tool of voter disenfranchisement and, due to its scale, is damaging to American democracy. All in all, anything that results in less people being crushed in its wheels is a net good for American society, and by extension, the rest of the world.

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Fri, 19 Oct 2018 04:10:52
edgecrusher said:

I wonder what it's like now as a teen in the suburbs.

Things have changed quite a bit since then.

Teenagers now are fucking lame. I think I told this story last year, but screw it, I'm telling it again. My daughter was the president of her school's anime club (apparently high schools have anime clubs now) and as an end of the year celebration they went to the big comic convention we have in town that comes around in May. These kids, guys and girls, got two unchaperoned hotel rooms and do you know what they did?? Nothing. They went to the convention, brought a gamecube to play Double Dash and ate pizza. No one was doing anything bad. No one brought booze, no one got laid, no one was even smoking. They were well behaved and boring. Look I wasn't the most exciting guy in the world in highschool and was definitely a geek, but if you put me in that situation I would have gotten up to something. I even talked to another one of the dads about it, and he echoed my statement saying there's no way this could have happened when he was in highschool either.

So yeah, teenagers today are boring. Like Henry Rollins once said, "we are the only generation that is more hardcore than our parents and our children." Completely true.

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Fri, 19 Oct 2018 09:05:10

...how do you know if it was unchaperoned?

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Fri, 19 Oct 2018 11:12:55
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He installed a spycam in a laptop.

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Fri, 19 Oct 2018 12:52:58
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...how do you know if it was unchaperoned?


I kind of thought someone was going to ask that. Having raised two teenagers I've gained some perspective about my own upbringing and parenting in general. On the whole, parents let their kids get away with a lot more than they ever realized. Sometimes you just figure no one got hurt and in the grand scope of things whatever they were doing just isn't a big deal. Other times, you're just too tired to harass them over stuff that isn't going to mean anything. But you know. You know exactly what they've been up to. They are teenagers, not Mastermind criminals.

In this particular case, I was the one who checked them out of their hotel rooms. There were like 10 kids or so. That is 10 separate opportunities for someone to have screwed up either by saying something or leaving something in the open. Aside from that, my wife and her have a very good relationship. If something good going on, she would have just come out and said it.
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Fri, 19 Oct 2018 19:23:01

Definitely true...kids today are fucking lame. It's kind of sad really. And I think it's scary because I think our society likes it this way. They want generations of obedient, docile people who are easy to control. By extension, I also think that's why there's more people than ever before who fucking snap and go on these killing sprees. Like an opposite reaction. IDK...it's a crazy world today.

I think in a lot of ways, our generation had things right. There was a balance that is missing today.

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Fri, 19 Oct 2018 19:48:40
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edgecrusher said:

Of course they did. I think they wanted to feel what their daughters felt when I made them feel emotions they never felt before.

Shame?

Regret?

robio said:

Teenagers now are fucking lame. I think I told this story last year, but screw it, I'm telling it again. My daughter was the president of her school's anime club (apparently high schools have anime clubs now) and as an end of the year celebration they went to the big comic convention we have in town that comes around in May. These kids, guys and girls, got two unchaperoned hotel rooms and do you know what they did?? Nothing. They went to the convention, brought a gamecube to play Double Dash and ate pizza. No one was doing anything bad. No one brought booze, no one got laid, no one was even smoking. They were well behaved and boring. Look I wasn't the most exciting guy in the world in highschool and was definitely a geek, but if you put me in that situation I would have gotten up to something. I even talked to another one of the dads about it, and he echoed my statement saying there's no way this could have happened when he was in highschool either.

So yeah, teenagers today are boring. Like Henry Rollins once said, "we are the only generation that is more hardcore than our parents and our children." Completely true.

Here in England we were drinking on the streets aged 13. Ahhhh. Good times.

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Fri, 19 Oct 2018 20:06:11
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edgecrusher said:

Of course they did. I think they wanted to feel what their daughters felt when I made them feel emotions they never felt before.

Shame?

Regret?

Orgasm.

Squirt.

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Fri, 19 Oct 2018 22:50:15

I feel like I'm being bullied here.

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Fri, 19 Oct 2018 23:02:21
If only you had grown up in a time and place where light mockery was considered endearing. Can I get you a hug instead?
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Fri, 19 Oct 2018 23:37:35

Now I'm being sexually harrassed.

#MeToo

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